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    posted a message on Can someone teach me how to tackle...

    Because every time I do it, it goes straight back to the opponent. Not a rant, a genuine question because I rarely ever take the ball cleanly. Also, what constitutes a foul? Again, genuinely interested. IRL, if you go through the back of someone - foul and a booking, regardless of whether you take the ball. In FIFA nothing, no?

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    posted a message on The curse of 4-2-3-1...
    Quote from RagingOtter >>

    I don't see very many people using it.

    I'm sure you CAN use it effectively based on your custom tactics you use.
    Or even with certain players and their work rates. I don't typically think of my CAMs as quick players so unless you switch their positions around to accomidate them.

    Then again certain formations may just be weird, I'd personally never like using 2 CDMs i mean there certain players you can get away with playing at CDM and still build a solid team and even hybrid if you wanted I just threw this together assuming someone has the players.
    http://www.futhead.com/17/squads/4043962/ Realistically i'd prefer Nain as that middle Cam simply beacause he's more defensive then KDB but the team loses chem then.

    The biggest issue for this formation in my opinion is the fact that CDM are out wide and typically most CAMs are attacking minded the default tactics probably have them staying forward,including the CAM sitting between the CDMS and when they go forward you are left with a MASSIVE gap in the middle.

    Like I said I'm sure you can adjust the tactics and player instructions to have that middle CAM sit back while attacking but if you're doing that why not just run a 4-3-2-1 formation instead? I don't personally think you gain much from having 2CDMs sitting wide with 3 cams and 1 striker.

     Lol, I wish I could afford a team like that.
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    posted a message on Post patch gameplay
    Quote from sludgepipe >>

    Anyone else struggling to enjoy the game since the patch?

     

    Whenever they try and fix something they always make it worse! Like Seki said in another post i really don't think these wankers should be making games like this. They have demonstrated consistently that they are simply incompetent. They do not give a fuck about anything unless it harms their bottom line.

     

    Since the patch they wanted to fix PTB abusers which i agree was annoying, but now it feels like 15 and 16 with massive amounts of pressure on you all the time. This makes actually playing football and a possession game both stressful and difficult. At times it makes it impossible if you add in the input delay when you only have less than a second to get a pass away.

     

    Just played some games and it is now all about how fast your players are again. My opponent was just hitting over the top through balls into the pace behind the defensive line and just sprinting onto the end of them. Yep this is the most effective way now to win on this game.

    The game at launch was enjoyable. You could pass out from the back without crazy pressure on you and you can keep the ball and play possession football. Sadly now it is back to rewarding pace abusers and over the top through balls.

     Have to agree with you Sludgy, I went on a run post patch where i've barely scraped wins and had a lot of losses and most of the games were 0-1 losses with me having 60%+ possession and many shots inside the box only to be outdone by pace on the wings. Notice a lot of that high pressure nonsense that I thought we tempered this year but I guess it's back. Anyway, switch up my tactics... I'm sorry, don't judge what I'm about to say but I got rid of the strong and fairly mobile beast supposedly is Lukaka and plumped for Musa. Musa has shit passing, shit strength, shit shooting but hey, I absolutely rinsed my opponent with pure pace, he was all over the shop. FIFA has once again reverted to type. I wondered how long it would take. They did this on 16 by about this time last year too. Remember the demo for 16? It was superb. Slow, methodical, you had to really think about your passing and by the end... a mess of pace and pressure - clicking buttons without care.
     
     
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    posted a message on The curse of 4-2-3-1...

    Honestly, I cannot play with this system. I had just come off the back of winning the FUT tournament, only conceding once along the way and for fun I went back in to play again. I decided to give the aforementioned formation a go. Oh my sweet Jesus... It's just the weirdest thing I've played. There are some formations I just straight up cannot play but this is different. I've played a good 10 games now and I've dominated all but two (and I mean dominated 67% min of 17 shots on goal), most of my efforts are good chances inside the box, plenty one on ones but I hit the post are they get blocked. Meanwhile but opponents have shit loads of space in my half, in spite of my two holding midfielders (I never normally play two and never concede this much space) and they go and score bangers and the games finish 1-0. It's like, everything I do should, should, end up with me on top but it just doesn't happen. The only wins I've managed to get are by changing the formation mid game. 

     

    4-2-3-1 puh, I spit on you, you dirt whore. 

     

    Anyone else play this? What instructions/settings do you use?

     

    Also, what do people do for corners? Before the patch, I had a nice little system of putting them in the middle and I wouldn't score loads but I'd get a few. Nothing seems to work now.

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    posted a message on This broken game pisses me off.
    Quote from Henners05 >>
    Quote from sludgepipe >>
    Quote from MJELEB >>

    The first night of the patch my players didn't behave as normal and I went 2-7, however on the second night it felt the same as before the patch and I won every game, with the same team and tactics.

     This is what is so annoying about this game. You fire it up and you just do not know what you are going to get. I just wished they could cut the crap out and we could have consistent, fair gameplay. That's never going to happen though is it.
     Exactly - I'd rather be in control of whether I win or lose. If my opponent is better than me or I make mistakes and lose, then fair enough, but it's so frustrating when you concede goals that you genuinely can't do anything about (the game auto-switching to the wrong player, button delay, you 'keeper deciding to feebly push the ball out to their striker for a tap in etc.). Sometimes it just feels like the game really doesn't want you to win.
     Do you ever feel like the margins of the power bar change? What I mean is that, you can hold down three quarter power to shift in to one side of the pitch in one game. Then the next game, you do the exact same power with the same player and this time it barely goes five feet. 
    Here's something I'd like to see changed in 18:
    Making a tackle, winning the ball but then falling over in the process and in giving the ball back to the opponent. This can also include, making a tackling only for an AI controlled teammate to run into said ball knocking into back into the path of an opponent. Or simply, making a tackle and the ball bouncing off your leg and back into the path of the opponent. How about when you make a tackle and get the ball, you just, you know, get the ball? (As a side note, it also pisses me off how many times you get tackled and the animation comes where your player is floored, taking him out of the game - no injury, just that he ends up sprawled on his back. It happens IRL but the frequency is far too high.)
     
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    posted a message on Lukaku

    i still love lukaku beast striker imo

     I wanted to love him but Batshuyai has been much better for me.
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    posted a message on Please help me this is driving me mad

    Game one is the wonderful This is Football - TIF. Absolutely loved that game. The amount of times playing FIFA I wish I could go back to this. It used to have the jumpers for goalpost mode too, where you'd play in a school playground with jumpers for goalposts. But yeah, you used to be able to start in the sunday leagues.

     

    Also, because of FIFPro they managed to get all the licences. Ah, the good old days when competition was fair(er).

     

    This might be the cover you were thinking of

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    posted a message on Speed up lag
    Quote from jacobta >>

    When looking at your internet connection to try and identify issues - doing a sped test is kinda pointless. Its all about latency, not about the speed of your line

     My question would be, how come I almost never have any kind of lag issue with any other online game? FIFA is without doubt the main and almost the only culprit. 
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    posted a message on Scripting Thread
    Quote from sludgepipe >>
    Quote from PS4Seb >>

    Has anyone started a new account to test how it handles?  Apologies if this is already covered in the thread.

     

    I started with a bronze team 45 chem, bought a team of Saudi players with my coins from the manager tasks and first 2 games, max player value 350.  The games I have had are absolutely amazing, it has just flowed beautifully.  Mistakes have happened as you would expect from low rated players but they have felt real and not biased to any particular side.  2 of my 4 games so far were really hard fought, experienced players with similar low rated teams.

     

    Logging in with my normal account is incomparable, you would think that my EPL squad were the bronze / silver team. They are slow, laggy and disinterested.

     Know what you are saying. personally i don't think this difference in gameplay is down to the age of the account. It is down to the team and players you have. The handicap is pretty severe in this edition and if you get a lot of high rated players you are gonna get shit horrible gameplay. I have played loads of games and tested this and it's the same everytime for me.
    If you want to enjoy the gameplay imho you need to balance up any high rated stars with low rated/average players for the game to allow you to play the game properly. I have 2 squads and i have managed to get my ratings down to 4.5 stars and 82 and i feel they play well like that. I have had to discard Alaba, Boateng, Ramos etc because adding those to teams where you have a few star players will fuck you up the arse. No other way of putting it. 
    Why not go back to your main account and build the same team you did on the other account and see if the results are the same?
     Interestingly enough, I had a nice little low rated team and started to upgrade, Rooney was probably my highest, though. Everything was nice. Then I swapped Batshuyai for Lukaku. Now, that would seem like a perfect upgrade, both big commanding players, not too fast but not too slow, good finishers, only Lukaku being better in every area. A clear upgrade. Well Batshuyai was killing it for me and Lukaku has been utter shite. This is a like for like swap, how the hell is the better player worse? A more direct comparison was when I swapped Zaha for his inform - the difference was startling. How can an IF be worse than a normal card?
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    posted a message on Scripting Thread

    So last four games have all been the same. Every time I get into the box, opponent makes a last ditch tackle and wins, every time. I'm talking 15 times a match. Most of my tackles going straight back to opponent. Multiple instances of pressing cross/pass/shoot and nothing happens. All four games were just me attacking my opponent's goal. The last one was one of those were you have 3 or 4 chances from 5 yards out and the gk saves and you just know, you are not going to be able to score. Fouls that are not called and yet the exact same ones go against you. Sometimes you just laugh. I did tonight. Jesus. 

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    posted a message on Scripting Thread

    Anyone want a free win in the FUT tournament? Apparently, I'm giving them away. Already qualified so just doing it for fun but fuck me I have had three of the most laughable games. I can't put it into facts and stats but anyone on here knows how it goes when you just feel it. Dominating, not even really trying that much and walking through my opponents. First game I had 4 one on one and all went wide, had a fifth and hit the post. Meanwhile my opponent scores with his first shot. In all three games I had near enough all my shots inside the box and they either went wide, got blocked or saved. All my opponents goals were 30/40yrd screamers.

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    posted a message on Lukaku

    Is it me or is he a fucking donkey on this game? I don't get many of the high price players and I only just got him and he's fucking shit. People like Enner Valencia have been much better for me. Thoughts...

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    posted a message on Speed up lag

    Yeah, I had it too tonight. My opponent had the ball in his half, next thing you know game speeds up and 0.5 seconds later he's in my box through for a one on one. Goal. Grrr

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    posted a message on FUT Champions requirement
    Quote from EllBate >>

    So I've got 3 attempts left on fut champs. Do attempts regenerate when a requirement ends or not?

     Yes. 
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    posted a message on This broken game pisses me off.

    Mate, game of my life. Button delay went insane. Could not pass. Had a one on one and guess what? two second delay to strike the ball and his goalkeeper sweeps it up. Then he gets it in midfield, the game does that bullshit super speed up thing where you literally have no control for like 3 seconds - seriously, what is that? - anyway when the game resumes normal speed he's in for a one on one.

     

    There's a lot of people who don't believe in scripting and fair play, sometimes I'm one of them, I go back and forth. But what I think 99.9% of us all agree is that this game can be a bugged out piece of shit when it wants. The logical ones will tell you that you just need to accept it and move on and yes, that is the right thing to do (if you want to do well at the game). The part of me that is a smart headed consumer, however, thinks that it's bullshit that they charge £60 for a game with some many blatant errors. Solution: don't buy it next year, I guess. (You know I will.)  

     

    Bottom line, I don't think it will ever change. But it's nice to have a place to come to let it all out. Now, where did I put that crack pipe...

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    posted a message on Player Ratings

    Does anyone get how they work? I've noticed this for a while but players that I watch and think are amazing finish up with lesser ratings. Case in point. I just played a guy, beat him 2-1. I had 18 shots on target, he had three. My GK gets a 7.9 for stopping 2 shots, whilst his gets a 7.5 for stopping 16. How does that work? The only reason he wasn't battered was his keeper.

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    posted a message on Weekend League Question

    I'm new to all this because I've only really done seasons but last night I qualified through the tournament. Tonight I go on and in the status it says 'not qualified'. What's the deal yo? It said on the start up screen if you'd already qualified it would carry over into next weekend. Could that be it or does it always just say that even if you have qualified?

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    posted a message on Weekend league canceled?

    First time I qualify and this.. Sad

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    posted a message on Will this update make FUT Champs playable?
    Quote from sludgepipe >>
    Quote from sludgepipe >>
    :dQuote from futhead_FullEfffekt >>

    Just had 3 opponents quit on me in a row. Don't know what they can be finding wrong now that the est date is gone

     That's weird I can still see the Est dates on mine. i wonder if the download has not finished yet then on mine?
     It should just come up with FUT champs logo and nothing else. Were you playing seasons? Maybe it's only for FUT champs. Just qualified for my first tournament. Beat a guy in the final who was all out defence, it took me to the 78th min to finally break him down, I considered hoarding it in the corner but thought better of it, he springs a break a gets a goal with his first shot of the game. Luckily, I went straight up the other end and scored but lessons learned. Shield that mother next time. 
    TBH, the game was so rotten, it makes me wonder if I want to play FUT champs at all. Does every go defensive or do some people try and give you a game?
    Yeah it was just seasons I was playing, that's why then...
     Some people have a go. Some just park the bus. First fut champs you won't know what has hit you lol. Get them 40 games in lad. Play through the pain, EA bullshit and tired headaches! I would like to say you will enjoy it but I would be lying 
    be sure to post and let us know your thoughts on it. Good luck!
     Hahaha. Ah Jesus, what have I let myself in for... I'll keep you posted. No doubt there'll be a rage thread appearing this weekend with my name on it
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    posted a message on Will this update make FUT Champs playable?
    Quote from sludgepipe >>

    Just had 3 opponents quit on me in a row. Don't know what they can be finding wrong now that the est date is gone

     That's weird I can still see the Est dates on mine. i wonder if the download has not finished yet then on mine?
     It should just come up with FUT champs logo and nothing else. Were you playing seasons? Maybe it's only for FUT champs. Just qualified for my first tournament. Beat a guy in the final who was all out defence, it took me to the 78th min to finally break him down, I considered hoarding it in the corner but thought better of it, he springs a break a gets a goal with his first shot of the game. Luckily, I went straight up the other end and scored but lessons learned. Shield that mother next time. 
    TBH, the game was so rotten, it makes me wonder if I want to play FUT champs at all. Does every go defensive or do some people try and give you a game?
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    posted a message on Will this update make FUT Champs playable?

    Just had 3 opponents quit on me in a row. Don't know what they can be finding wrong now that the est date is gone

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    posted a message on I'm 3-10 in Weekend league on all major BS. Selling my FIFA account worth Millions.

    I tell you what I would like removed: auto-defending. Normally when people put the controllers down, you have a glut of goals but there are those moments when they set up their teams defensively and the CPU just goes nuts. I just played a guy who at half time switched to ultra d/ptb and then, IDK, his mom called him for his tea or something (bless) and he puts the pad down. Every time I went forward there was just a sea of players and they dived in front of every shot I took. I scored twice but man, I had 20 shots on goal, most blocked by his players (CPU). It's just too much. Computer controlled players should be there to hold positions/run into space and nothing more. I've posted before about how the CPU has scored goals from corners on my behalf. WTF?  

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    posted a message on Tackles that are not tackles

    Lost so many goals to this and I'm just sick of it now. Make a tackle to see the ball inexplicably bounce up off my opponent for him to regain possession. Yep, this is all. Bullshit. 

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    posted a message on Losing games to bad players

    I'll give you a bad player. A nonce who PTBs and, even though you are playing counter attack - which in my book means your team sits deep - the AI deems it acceptable for your defence to play on the halfway line. Cue his launched ball over the top to Rashford. Cue three goals scored this way and three dabs to follow. Meanwhile, your attempts to score are stifled by his nine man defence. 

     

    That is 90% of the games I play. That is 100% of what is wrong with FIFA 17. I guarantee in FIFA 18 it will be impossible to defend deep - EA always go to the opposite extreme of whatever problem their previous game suffered from. FIFA 18's most successful tactic will be sitting on the halfway line with high pressure. 

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    posted a message on Update out on PC

    Some of these updates are really going to piss some people off, lol. No more going to 10 at the back, thank God. 

     

    • Addressed an issue where a pass was made without a button press.
      • Displaying correct kit on the player in the kit select screen.

    Only took four months and three patch fix lies to actually fix the above. lol

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    posted a message on Difference in days on Fut Champions... one day I play amazing, next day im shit...

    Don't know what anyone else makes of this but one of the big factors in me winning or losing often comes down to those 50-50 situations. Ex. you tackle your opponent ball could run anywhere, some games it constantly goes to you, other games constantly goes to your opponent, hardly any game does it actually go somewhere in the middle. This leads to a ton of goals both for and against me. If I make three tackles in/around the box and they all go to my opponent, he is going to score. Likewise, if he makes four tackles that all run onto me, I'm going to score. Just, I notice this kind of advantage is often what tips the balance between a win and a loss. 

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    posted a message on Scripting Thread
    Quote from PS4Seb >>
    Quote from fifanoob1022 >>

    You know sometimes I get really mad and sometimes you just get numb by how random this game can be, I played this game and the guy scored 3 goals, all headers. Two by Origi and one by Kane. Origi has a heading accuracy of 70, its good but not as high as some of the other strikers e.g Higuain who I had in my squad and he did not score one header.  In this game Origi was flying in the air scoring headers like he was on springs, man what you gonna do! This shit is going to keep happening and we are going to keep playing it.

     I think that's the worst thing. We keep buying it even though it rages us and probably depletes a little of our life force with each game.
     
    maybe if the severs weren't so bad it would be better. I have super fast fibre, rock solid, yet 8 out of 10 games lag badly. Even good games stutter in places. BF1 is an EA game (well, with DICE)  and it is rock solid for me, plays like a dream online. I don't get why FIFA is so bad.
     The only other game I have played online is COD and have only once experienced lag for like 30 secs. I have also almost never experienced it on normal online seasons (outside of FUT). My distrust for this game goes beyond my distrust of Sean Hannity and FOX news. What I do now is to play three games and then stop. I play other games in the mean time. 3 games is about as much as I can handle consecutively. 
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    posted a message on Youtuber pack weight
    Quote from sludgepipe >>

    Lol. 35k on basically nothing. Now 17 is out that's the end of that! There is no way I could ever give EA any money for packs. They won't be getting so much as a tenner out of me. I buy the bare minimum basic game and that's it. 

     Yep. What a waste of life and money but hey, if that's how people choose to spend their limits years on earth, that's up to them I guess. £35k wow. This game is just an obscene waist of time
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    posted a message on Fifa 17 the worst Fifa yet?

    @sheffield agree to a certain extent. What I would say is fuck off the online shit because it is shite. I played a massive session with my mate the other day doing a co-op career mode (which I haven't yet played on this FIFA), fucking hell the game is impressive. Went back to FUT, played one game, experienced so much bullshit and had the classic, dominate 20 shots on goal, hit the woodwork three times, player bumping into each other... eh, you know the score. Lost 1-0 in the 90th minute. I won't play online anymore. When you compare it to the brilliance of career mode, why waste your time with online - it really is the worst mode in the game. 

     

    Seriously, give career mode a go. 

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    posted a message on Weekend Leauge Bullshit
    Quote from wageringking >>

    I hate people complaining about "ea aids" and scripting and other bullshit like that. The reason you cant qualify for weekend league is cause youre shit... no other reason... You have like 16 trys to get it.. If you cant get in after 16 attempts youre clearly not gunna do well in the weekend league anyway so its pointless to even get in when you probably are gunna lose 90% of your games.. Scripting is just an excuse shitty players have when they play someone better than them.

    Lol. Git Gud.  
    The facts are this: there is no hard evidence to support scripting and equally, there is no hard evidence to deny it. No one has come up for a plausible reason (not even EA) to explain the litany of weird things that take place during game but neither has anyone been able to prove that these things are not a result of player performance. So, we are at an impass. 
     
     
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    posted a message on Est Date Quitters
    Quote from fifanoob1022 >>

    What is the point? Honestly, WL has ruined FIFA. People pull the most pathetic tactics to try not to lose on this game. I have 6 people in a row quit when they saw est dates and finally I got a guy who was established a year before me. At 30 mins gone I was 3-0 up and he rage quit. Est dates don't mean shit. 

     I never noticed the EST dates till I read it here about a month ago. I started playing Fifa around October 2015 and FUT around Feb 2016. So when I'm matched against a FUT founder, there are more chances that he will beat me. Mix in the the other bullshit that is programmed into this game. So why do you think it is ok for me to play against a FUT founder? Though the next opponent might also be an experienced player with a newer account but it's like just betting on the possibility that you are matched against someone with the same skill set. I like playing against tougher opponents and I can learn something from them but at the same time no one wants their ass kicked  6-0 and still enjoy the game. So may be you will think differently if you were a newbie.
     I do get what you're saying and I think there are a couple of points in response to your question. The first and most pertinent is because it's a game. This is the biggest issue with FIFA 17. The sole purpose of a game is that it be fun.
    *Game - an activity that one engages in for amusement.
    The sense of fun has been ripped from this game with endless packs and shiny blue, black, pink and purple cards, TOTW cards, TOTY cards, POTM cards, even scream cards (Jesus fucking Christ). They will never stop inventing new bullshit cards to extort money from you. EA's hunger for money has been so well executed that people are lapping up this shit and spending hundreds, and in some cases, thousands of pounds/dollars/yen - take your pick - on a game that, come next September, will be worthless and everyone will have to invest hundreds of pounds more if they want another go. When people start spending money and there are prizes at stake, people start thinking shit's becoming real and start pulling bitch manoeuvres in order to win because winning (or in some cases not losing) has become the be all and end all for people, ergo the fun, the amusement has been lost. The game is a trudge through the murky waters of pauses and replays and dab dab dabs. It is a behemoth of cogs and wheels and the player is the rusted gear, grinding its way through 40 games a weekend in search of some elusive pink coloured Ronaldo that appears to be worth millions but in reality is a bunch of pixels and therefore worth fuck all. Grinding their way through 40 games instead of spending their time with girlfriends, wives, partners, mates, drinking, smoking, joking, taking in the sun/snow, you know, just generally enjoying life. We are, of course, not bound to this weekend dungeon of misery but such is EA's finesse at marketing these rare and worthless cards, that we trick ourselves into believing this is truly the best way to spend an entire weekend, 48 hours no less, of our lives. 
    You may think I've gone off track. Au contraire mon frere, refusing to play a person based on their est. date is a symptom of this joyless self-flagellation. It is exactly in line with treating this 'game' like anything other than a game and the antithesis to amusement.  
    A quick second point, often people run multiple accounts, so just because it says est 2016 doesn't mean they haven't been playing the game for years and won't kick your arse. 
    TLDR fuck WL, get out and get some sun.
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    posted a message on Weekend Leauge Bullshit
    Quote from sludgepipe >>

    I honestly think there is much more bullshit in regular seasons. That's my experience anyway and why I stay away from them.

     

    having said that just won that WL qualifying tourney. Was comfortable until the 86th min 3-1 up when my opponent scored a 30 yard long shot that just went straight, no angle not across the keeper but straight. I don't think I've ever scored one of these before they just don't go in. Well they did for him and then the last 5 mins my team had completely gone they went from feeling fine to heavy lead weights that turned like trucks. Managed to hold on but EA just loves a late equaliser.

     Fair enough. I personally notice the worst gameplay in WL. Particularly the qualifiers. I've played through twice today and each time I had the smoothest ride (don't mean easy opponents, I mean passes working first time, players turning swiftly and exactly in line with the analogue stick, player switching perfect etc) and then I got the semis and everything went stupid: player switching... might as well not have bothered - I'd go to change to the man two feet from the ball but no, I'd get the guy 10 yards from it; player turning, horrible and stiff, passes delayed, shots delayed. Got a red card for a block tackle, I could go on... 
    I remember some FIFA pro talking about how when the game starts to fuck you, he alters his play because he knows his normal game will get scrambled by the thing we're not supposed to talk about. So he plays incredibly safe and that's how he manages to keep his win ratio in spite of the thing we're not supposed to talk about. The red card was a classic example of that. The game before, same ref, I hacked down three of my opponents players = play on. When the shit kicked in, a block tackle = a red. 
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    posted a message on Weekend Leauge Bullshit

    You guys do realise that stamina affects performance, while your stamina goes down so does your stats so at the end of the game of course your players are gonna feel heavy and awkward, it's exactly the same in Pro clubs, as a defender it just gets easier to defend the longer the match goes on cus the opposition attackers can't dribble or accelerate half as well as they could at kick off.

     

    https://www.easports.com/fifa/ultimate-team/tips-and-tricks/how-chemistry-works-in-fut-17

     

    Bottom of the page about stamina.

     

     

     First off, and I genuinely don't mean any disrespect because I generally like what you say and respect your viewpoint but that's bollocks. I played a guy who started with five players below 40% fitness and by the 40th minute he had one guy on no fitness, absolute zero. That same player continued to burn it down the wing for the rest of the match. He didn't make a single sub and he matched my full 99 fitness team till the end for pace, passing, shooting, strength, ball controI - all stats that are affected by stamina IRL. I do not believe fitness really gets properly applied. Just to add to that, I had walcott get injured (subsequently out for 2 matches) and yet he ran the show after his 'injury' and got a hattrick. Again, if the player is injured, I would expect to see some form of limitation applied to him. Sure players can sometimes play on through the game and then miss one game but you don't have a player out for four games who can run a team ragged like he's fresh as a daisy. Fitness/stamina/injuries are like a lot of things in this game, just a facade. You might notice a twinge of a difference but not that will hamper your play. 
    The above is the reason teams can play high pressure, charging you down with 3/4 players at a time for the entire 90 mins. Some teams do that IRL and by the 70th min mark, they are fucked and often end up conceding. Liverpool player high pressure but it is controlled, they reserve energy by choosing when to close and closing with intelligence. 
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    posted a message on can only stand 2 or 3 games now....

    On the subject of pressure and getting out of it with airballs - seriously, how the fuck does anyone do this? Whenever I'm surrounded and I try to switch flanks, they just block the ball.

     

    When will they sort out stamina in this fucking game?? If stamina actually had an effect then people would have to be a lot more intelligent when using high pressure because any football team that bombs it around for an entire match is fucked by the 70th minute. I played a game against a guy who started with five players all under a quarter of fitness left. By the 40th min, his winger had no fitness, NONE, and he still bombed it down the wing.

     

    If I created the game, I would have a system whereby when a player hits half fitness certain stats are affected. For examples, IRL when you get knackered there are key stats you drop in - pace, passing, ball control, shooting, strength are all affected when you get tired. Why not have a point drop in these at the halfway mark, another point drop at the quarter mark, and again at zero? It doesn't mean people can't high pressure but it means that if you do it aimlessly, you will suffer as the game goes on, just like IRL. It would make games far more interesting because people would have to switch up their play styles mid game. I guess that's too obvious an idea for EA.

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    posted a message on Est Date Quitters

    Funny that you say this, because after playing a 2013 account, the semi final was a 2017 account. His team was made up entirely of loans players and the slick seemless passing I had was gone, player switching gone, organised defence gone. Against the 2013 I scored 2 very lucky rebound goals, of course that went against me against the 2017 account. Dominated and lost 1-0. Lol

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    posted a message on Weekend Leauge Bullshit

    I'm sick and fucking tired of this shitty mode. I barely touch it and whenever I do, I always leave seething. No other mode on FIFA plays like this one. First two matches, everything is smooth, passing is sweet, defence is sweet, shooting is sweet. Get to the semi/final and all the bullshit kicks in. Button delay, hello where did you come from? I didn't see you thirty seconds ago. Opponents being three feet away and yet making last ditch tackles. Wonder striker 1-0 losses. Press player switch and get transferred not to the man two feet from the ball but to the fullback who is ten yards away. I could write an essay. I could write a book. I could write a trilogy about the fucking shit involved in this game but I've already wasted 30mins of my life on this shite. All I will say is that I never experience this shit as bad as I do in WL. To me, online play goes like this: 

     

    Normal seasons = barely any bullshit.

     

    FUT seasons = fair amount of bullshit

     

    WL = oh my god I'm getting raped by bullshit. It's burrowing into my ass and splitting me into pieces. I'm left crying in a pool of my own shame. 

     

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    posted a message on Est Date Quitters

    What is the point? Honestly, WL has ruined FIFA. People pull the most pathetic tactics to try not to lose on this game. I have 6 people in a row quit when they saw est dates and finally I got a guy who was established a year before me. At 30 mins gone I was 3-0 up and he rage quit. Est dates don't mean shit. 

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    posted a message on Changing Formation during gameplay

    The shit people will do just to get a win... It's sad that FIFA stopped being simply a game. The fundemental core of a game has to be fun, without a fun a game can not be called a game. FIFA is just not fun these days and that is in part because of all the bullshit ways people try to get an advantage. 

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    posted a message on You are all Sheep...
    Quote from GRFUTArgentino >>

    Right then,

     

    Two days in a row now i have got to the later stages of trying to qualify for the WL (one final and ne semi final) only to get "disconnected from the EA server", have a loss slapped on me and out of qualifying back to square one.

     

    Thatl be the last time i bother with that shit.

     

    Im bored with normal seasons Vs Real/Barca/Bayern and im done with Online seasons sweatfests.

    As far as aspiring to build a real nice high rated side well its become clearer than ever this year that this is only possible if you have time to cain 60 games a week away or more every week, or throw hundreds of pounds/dollars at the game and hope you get something back (maybe you wont). Option 1 i cant do as i work full time and have other responsibilities a lot of weekends and as for spending fuckloads, no thanks ill just use the money to buy new games to play when i can.

     

    So its bye Fifa17 and you know what, fuck buying Fifa18, im done.

    Yep. I've pretty much fucked off WL due to the gameplay, both the way people behave and the shit that the game produces. I mean, what the fuck is up with that double speed nonsense where the game starts going ultra fast and doing moves you haven't yet pressed? Oh but there's no scripting...
    Honestly though, give PES a go. I enjoyed it last year and it's even better this year. FIFA is beginning its decline IMO. The money has ruined the game, people playing awful football just to get some shitty packs. PES concentrates on actually gameplay and this where the purist will head. Give it three years and FIFA will be the joke game again. 
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    posted a message on Just got FIFA 17 - any advice/tips?
    Quote from Rmcdowall93 >>

    Turn around a run away haha unless you are prepared to rage maybe more than any other fifa before then run far

     Couldn't agree more. Press eject on your system, carefully put the disc back in its case, go to the store and ask for your money back.
    Right now you're where I was three months ago - in the glow of a shiny new FIFA, with all its superficial 'improvements'. Just wait as you go into month two and you face the relentless stream of EPL teams featuring Musa/Rashford/Vardy/Remy, Butland, Smalling, Kante - I'm not joking, 95% of teams I play have these players. Wait as the endless grind sets in, of dominating opponents who play ultra d/park the bus + counter attacking. You will cry in horror, scream in rage, froth in despair as you lose your sixth straight match 0-1 whilst having 60% and 10+ shots to your opponents single, lone, solitary shot. You will cry when you see yet another player injured from a two footed lunge that didn't even generate a free kick, let alone the red card it deserved. You will laugh with despondency as the ball hits the post four times consecutively before bouncing perfectly into the opposing keepers arms. Nice. That same laugh will grow to Joker levels of delirium as you make not one tackle, not two, not three, maybe not even four but five tackles that send the ball straight back to your opponent for a one on one that he fluffs but it's ok because your keeper decides that this is the perfect moment to lose control of his bodily functions, and you watch, rapt with incandescent rage as he stands as watches this paraplegic shot slowly but surely trickle over the line. 
    Trust me, this will happen. You will hate EA, you will hate both the player and the game but worst of all, you will hate yourself. 
    Don't play it. Remove it immediately before it infects your console with its insidious purge of enjoyment. If you won't do it for yourself, please, I beg of you, do it for the controllers that you are sure to send smashing into the wall until they are nothing more than cracked plastic and torn cables. They did not wrong you but they will suffer. Please, think of the controllers...
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    posted a message on Fut Champions - Every match seems to be the same...
    Quote from DrRosetto >>

    Every match its the same stupid gameplay.

     

    Everyone seems to play on high pressure or park the bus combined with counter attack tactics.

     

    Out of the 25 matches on PC its maybe 5 matches that are different. But every opponent runs into my players like a fucking bulldozer. It never stops. 

     

    What exactly are they doing and why is it so easy? I always manage to get to gold 2 but this gameplay is absolutely not fun to play. 

     

     

     

    Yep. This is exactly what makes FIFA 17 shit. I had a break from the game whilst playing other actual enjoyable games. I come back and find exactly what you're talking about, one dimensional shit play and everybody plays it. This is the most boring FIFA to date. But EA has made this happen with its win at all costs. The funny thing is, the same people that play this park the bus shit are the ones who moan when people shield the ball in the 80th min, screaming "it's just a game." FIFA is like Twitter, full of bellends 
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    posted a message on Player instructions sigh
    Quote from Helterskelta >>

    Ok I'm having an issue for the recent run of games. I set up my wingers to "stay forward" "stay wide" and "get in behind".

    I get the ball with my full back and what do you know, the winger runs to me for a short 3m pass...are players just too stupid to follow instructions?

    Super frustrating as my wingers are my main outlet to relevie pressure or counter attack, when they don't do what I set them up to do, I just get destroyed 

    :(

     

    Haha, yes, this exact shit happens to me. Funnily enough, I was having this problem but leading in the game and I decided to pull them back as I didn't want to be caught out. So I set my wingers to 'balanced' and 'come short', what happens? They bomb forward constantly. Game's a joke. I've felt for years player instructions are pointless and I stand by that feeling. 
    So much of this game is placebo bullshit and I'm getting tired of playing a game that wants to hide every detail of its programming 
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    posted a message on TOTW 15 Guarenteed SBC, why it's not worth it.

    I agree. They were good when they first came out but two things have changed - people have cotton onto to the value of certain items and now hoard them and then keep them on the market for silly money and continue to keep them there even when no one is buying; secondly EA has ramped up the cost of SBC's compared to when they first came out. All this adds to most SBC's being not worth the time and investment. Which ironically is a great analogy for the game itself. 

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    posted a message on Penalty bullshit

    I've had a couple of pens from the AI making tackles on my behalf. Love those ones...

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    posted a message on Scripting Thread

    Winning the league losses: defined by a drastic decrease in performance whenever you are multiple games but a mere win/point away from the title. In my case 3 games and 2 points off. Suddenly I go from not having lost and winning 5 in a row to 2 draws and 1 loss and my team turning to utter dog shit. Naturally, it came down to the last game so FIFA could add the thrill factor. "Oooooh, will he do it....?" 12 shots on target and my opponents keeper is God. This game is so predictable it's boring. 

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    posted a message on 2K Developing a football game?

    Well you're right but it's not football as we know it. NFL, I'm afraid...

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    posted a message on Does switching a player's position ingame affect his performance, no matter what position?

    I did not know this was a thing. Sounds like a bullsjit feature to include in the game. I hate all these snide little workarounds FIFA have in the game

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    posted a message on R/ New Source Code PROVES Handicap/Momentum/Hidden Triats
    Quote from BarcaFan32 >>
    Quote from xmb1000 >>
    Quote from BarcaFan32 >>

    If scripting/momentum is real, then how do you explain multiple people every weekend winning all 40 of their WL games?

    Scripting doesn't mean a pre-determined outcome, just sliders being moved artificially in game which makes it harder. If the skill gap is there you win regardless.
     so you admit if you are superior in skill then you'll win lol. Scripting is irrelevant then, it just "makes it harder" but if you're good enough you'll win. People should stop complaining about scripting and just get good enough 
    Ah the old 'git gud' argument. I think you misunderstand. Scripting is like being in a fight and having one arm tied behind your back. You may well be a good boxer and be fighting against someone who can't throw a punch but you're still being handicapped. Now, if you come up against someone who is at your level or better and you have to fight with one hand behind your back, what's going to happen? You're going to get a good hiding aren't you? 
    Those people who win 40 WL are the absolute minority of FIFA players, the 2% who are ridiculously skilled at the game and hence they can overcome the handicapping. For the other 98% of us, fighting with one hand behind your back becomes pretty tiring very quickly. 
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    posted a message on Marquee matchups

    I figured out that basically there is only one affordable Italian Juventus player - Rugani - and he is now extinct (only his 25k IF is available). Lol. 

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    posted a message on Marquee matchups

    WTF is the purpose of the Milan Juventus one? The only Italian Juventus players are all 30k up. Am I missing something here, or is this SBC just dumb?

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    posted a message on A 4 gold pack... Really EA?

    I got a 4 gold pack for Christmas, last year we got 3 untradeable mega packs wtf??? Anyone else get anything?

     I got 500 fucking coins you lucky barsteward 
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    posted a message on Fut Champs is a joke!
    Quote from Rmcdowall93 >>

    There shouldnt be such a thing as momentum! if you want to rock into Fut champs with a silver team or a cheap "OP" team then you better be a pro but instead you would most likely go in thinking ill most likely win this due to some stupid reason EA have implemented in,

     

    It just makes no sense to me, why have informs and special cards when the second you build your "ultimate team" you just gets punished for it with bad gameplay

     I would also say, I'm generally unconvinced by informs. My IF Zaha is shit compared to my standard one. 
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    posted a message on Fut Champs is a joke!
    Quote from xmb1000 >>

    That momentum stuff happens both ways though. What EA really need to look at how many people actually ENJOY their UT/FUTC game mode and how many are simply grinding out results to get a 'better' squad. I swear the decision makers don't play the game at anything approaching most of the heavy user base.

    It is immaterial to EA whether players enjoy FUT or not, so long as the money keeps rolling in they're winning. I get every piece of anger directed at this game but we still keep playing. I guess my own little stance against it is that I never spend money on FIFA save for buying the game. Even so, I'm still contributing to the coffers. If 20% of the FIFA community switched to PES next year, EA would look into the game and make changes. That is the only way to effect change if you want it.
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    posted a message on FUT Champions rant!!!!!!!!!!
    Quote from 911profiteer >>
    Quote from Seki >>

    Oh i forgot to mention one game my Butland made 0 saves my opponents Begovic made 7 so i sold Butland and bought Begovic, next game my opponent had Butland he saved 7 my Begovic saved 0 is this a joke?

     Lol, this game is so extremely scripted, even Crlarsen has complained.
     He did? what did he say m8?
    Bump.  
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    posted a message on Zaha Inform

    Now, usually I don't get much play with informs and I never have many coins on this game; financially, I'm like the Sunderland of this game. However, this year I managed to get hold of inform Zaha. An upgrade on my standard Zaha, he is better in every department, massively so in dribbling and shooting and pace is good too. So why the hell does my inform play so shit in comparison? I was beating people for fun with regular, boring old everyday Zaha but with the inform I can't get past anyone. His pace is up from 89 to 91, his dribbling from 84 to 89 and yet he feels slow as shit. Has anyone else experienced this with an inform?

     

    I'm not getting all 'scripty' about this, I've just found that whenever I've used an inform I generally can't feel a difference (in this case I can because IF Zaha feels shit). Same thing with chem cards, I put them on and I notice either nothing at all or they seem to get worse. Seriously, half my team are on basic but I'm so distrusting of chem cards.

     

    Just wondering what other people think...

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    posted a message on Whats the deal with NLW TEAMS?

    What's an NLW team?

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    posted a message on Scripting Thread

    So I was losing 1-0 and it reach about 85mins and my players were sluggish, AI not moving at all, you know the usual, so I thought screw it and quit. I switch the TV over and come back a bit later to the end of the game. In that last 5 mins were I wasn't playing the cpu managed to get my centre back sent off. How can that be possible when the control pad was on the table untouched? AI actively committing fouls and getting you reds. Lol

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    posted a message on Div 4 Help

    im getting bored. Can't get past div 4. I've basically been on this cycle for a while of dominating 6 and 5, holding 4 for a season, then getting relegated consecutively all the way back to 6, dominating 6 and 5, holding 4... Rinse and repeat and I'm bored. When I get up to 4 what I struggle with is the defensive football. People never come out, they just sit back and hit it up to Martial, Rashford, Remy, Musa - this is not a complaint of that style of play, I'm done complaining about it, just would like to know how to beat it. In div 4 I usually lose games 1-0 where I get hit on the break and then I'll have like 7/8 shots that all get blocked by a wall of defence. How do you get around this? I'm better at slow build up play so maybe this is affecting my chances. Just frustrated now

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    posted a message on Tired of The tw£ts that play this game

    watching every replay, dabbing, watching the players exit down the tunnel, taking the whole half time break to make no changes, constantly pausing where you're about to take possession. Why can't people just play the game? Why does the FIFA community, more than any other, have to behave like c£nts?

     

    Edit: nothing better than snatching a dirty win from one of these wasters 

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    posted a message on Did a test, Cheap team vs. Expensive team Fut Champs qualifying

    To the OP, I hear you but honestly, take it from someone who's thrown his controller one too many times, don't let it get to you. The game has problems and you're right that it is now dominated by microtransactions and most of the things EA implement from FUT champs to SBC's are about making money. The game is bordering on a pay-to-play and I think it will only get worse. I do think the games industry as a whole will at some point get an overhaul when it comes to the law because so many games, FIFA included, are more or less gambling, which is obviously illegal for under 18's. I think at some point, as the games get bigger, governments will start implementing laws to restrict the practice but for now no amount of EA haranguing will change anything.

     

    The only thing you can do is speak with your wallet. Either do what I do and never invest a penny more than the purchase price of the game. Or, don't buy it at all. The only thing that will change the game now is a downturn in money but most people who play the game enjoy investing their hard earned into it. From a business point of view it would be stupid of EA to change their practice 

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    posted a message on Why The wall does not jump

    On the subject of free kicks anyone get it where you go to pass and the ball goes in a different direction? So, I've got the ball say on the halfway line and I move the camera to face my right back, I hold the stick towards him but when the ball goes it goes centrally to my opponent. Have conceded a few goals like this and it's pissing me off

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    posted a message on No tactics work

    Also, if you're struggling to break an opponent down, switch up the play. For example, I like to pass it around on the deck and build my way up to his box but if I cone up against someone who just sits deep, every now and again I'll launch it high across field, I'll go on a run with my centre mid, I'll fire off long shots (even from ridiculous angles you can get a rebound goal); I'll do something he doesn't expect to make him panic and think he can't just sit deep. Switching up your play will often force your opponent to come out. Try and improve your corners too. I did and this helped massively. Against people that sit very deep, I'll just take random shots from anywhere - they have so many players in the box, a lot of my shots will be deflected for corners and then bam, 1-0. 

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    posted a message on Scripting Thread

    The scripting is so predictable. I haven't played for a while as have been away. Come back and have about 3/4 games of smooth gameplay, then for no reason my team are sluggish, every through ball is an inch to far ahead and every player takes three touches to control the ball. It comes in waves and there's nothing you can do but try not to lose when it happens

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    posted a message on Should I keep on with FUT Champs?

    It's nice to hear all of the above. I tried a couple of times to qualify and found the gameplay to be awful - not necessarily the mechanics but the way people choose to play the game; PTB after 1 goal up in the 15th min. Lol. And TBH I don't have the time to get 40 games in. There was a part of me that felt I was missing out but more and more seem to be complaining about the gameplay in it and the little taste I've had is enough to keep me on seasons. 

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    posted a message on Best bpl cm?
    Quote from BusySasquatch >>

    Personally found Barkley to be decent, but I haven't used an EPL team in about a month 

     Seconded. For me Barkley and Peryiya (however you spell it) are class. I've fecked off the expensive options as they've not worked out well for me
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    posted a message on Youtube channel help! Any feedback positive/negative is appreciated!
    Quote from psdhinsay >>

    Yes i am.  How did you guess? Wolverhampton actually but close enough!

     Haha, I knew you weren't full brum but close enough. I'm from Brum, so respect and thumbs up for getting out there. Good luck, put the west mids on the map lad!!
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    posted a message on CALLING ALL "PRO" PLAYERS... I need your advice.
    Quote from Iuhoosiers4ike >>

    I always go back after a game and watch all the goals scored, so i can see what i did right on my goals, and wrong on goals i concede 

     

    It has helped me as i notice mistakes i make over and over, and i can work on it

     This is a good point. I believe in scripting and have suffered my fair share of bullshit - red card just for standing next to someone, anyone? But I must say that sometimes what I think is bullshit is, on looking back over a replay, actually genuine. IE, my player getting a clean tackle and the ball doing a dumb rebound, sometimes on looking back I can actually see that I just made a poor lunge. Of course, there are plenty of times where I watch back and it is complete bullshit. 
    Like someone above said, when you feel the script just try to be really careful. Your natural inclination is to get frustrated and rush things, always looking for the opportunity to score. Don't, this will lead to mistake. Play slow and calm and only safe balls - no Hollywood. When it's really bad, I just accept that the best I'll be able to do is draw and so I try not to lose. 
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    posted a message on This Game...
    Quote from futhead_loporto9 >>

    I just despise the matches when you know you or your opponent is getting every single break. Lucky bounces happen in real life, but 3 lucky bounces in a row leaving my opponent with a sitter is just ridiculo

     I hate this too. I find that if there is a rebound that seems ridiculous, ie your own AI deliberately gets in the way of a pass, it will always lead to a goal scoring opportunity. I have had so many bullshit deflections in the middle of the park that fly 20 yards for a one on one for my opponent (for me as well when the game likes me) 
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    posted a message on How the hell do you block?

    I've had this problem. The only thing that I've found is pressing L2 but you have to time if exactly right when they're about to shoot. Other than that, it is the lottery of your defence auto blocking. I've found they do it more often if you play defensive. Definitely the opponents I play that get shed loads of blocks in play very defensively 

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    posted a message on POTM Costa Price

    Ah, pity the people like me that don't spend a penny on the game and so have a chance of getting nothing. This is ever quicker becoming a pay to play game

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    posted a message on How are team ratings calculated?

    God knows. There is so much hidden shit that EA just won't reveal, that's why so many people distrust them. They were secretive about chemistry and look how that turned out. I've also noticed doing SBC's that when I've swapped a guy with yellow bars of chem for someone with full green bars, my chem rating goes down. WTF? I've given up on trying to work this game out. Just accept EA bullshit and don't bother taxing your brain about it 

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    posted a message on Done playing fifa, can someone let me know when EA fixes their game
    Quote from Red_3ye >>
    Quote from DildoSwaggins1 >>

    I swear this game doesn't understand what a foul is.

    This is the biggest problem for me (new to the forum btw).  Defenders can basically body-slam attackers and take the ball without a foul being given when, in real football, that kind of challenge would probably be a yellow card.  It makes the on-line game a constant battle of barging/being barged off the ball, which isn't very enjoyable.  
     This is actually my biggest issue with the game. Refs are fucking shit. How do you make refs worse? In 15 they were inconsequential (which for a ref is a good thing), in 16 they were shite and in 17 they are abysmal. There is absolutely no consistency whatsoever. Surely with each game things should improve not decline?
    Anybody know how player ratings actually work on this game. I had 12 shots on target against Butland and scored 1 - he get's a 6.8, and they were bloody good shots, mind. He has 4 shots against my Butland and scores 1 and my Butland gets a 7.5. WTF? 
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    posted a message on Scripting Thread

    Every time I'm about to win the title, bullshitoramma. One win from the title with one game left. Butland is on an attribute card to improve all his abilities, has the worst game of his life, flaps for the goal I concede. Whilst his butland is God. I lose 1-0. Lol

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