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    posted a message on Fifa18 - same rubbish different game? Not ranting, just amazed!

    Not sure what to say, the other guy had a slightly worse team than me going into the game, he immediately subbed in Aguero and Hazard at the start, probably after seeing my team (from what I saw, could have been a trio of world beater loan signings).

     

    I absolutely hammer the guy ALL game, I hit the post two or three times, my players missed 'chance after chance'.

    I scored first both times, yet he basically scored 'kick off goals'.

    Maybe I am just bad at defending, but my defence just seemed to 'open up'.

    I do feel it is a bit too easy to 'run through to goal' if your opponent has a player with great pace and dribbling.

     

    This was an 'online seasons match'.

     

    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/eShaman/screenshot/7345848

     

    I'm not saying I am great at the game, probably awful at this time, but to dominate that much and not win... lost for words.

     

    Played a draft match and won, with the other games still to play (I have a pretty rubbish team in the current draft, but the opponent I beat had Messi lol).

     

    Need to finish the draft, play some squad battles and probably try and qualify for FUT Champs during the early access period.

    I have a feeling squad battles could be useful, as there isn't much compeition for it at the moment, so you could get a good prize before everyone else starts playing it, decent prize could follow.

     

    The game seems ok so far, it is definitely glitched though - but I guess we should all expect that.

     

    As I cannot trade in the app yet, I am struggling to make any coins to build a decent team with, real bummer! Confused

     

    How is everyone else getting on?

     

     

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    posted a message on FIFA 18 web app + loyalty packs
    Quote from sgerardi >>

    I played FUT last night via EA Access but when I try and log-in to the web app, I'm either hit with an error code or told that I need to play on console first...which I've already done. Anyone know the solve for this?

     I think it is just a 'timed based issue'.
    EA are simply infuriating to deal with.
    I managed to get on the web app, I did some bits on there.
    Transfer market is unavailable to me complete on the webapp, so I cannot trade. I know TONS of people who can trade and have no issues, but it is blocked for me (I know a number of people have this problem).
     
    I have an EA Access subscription, so I logged onto the console version, played 5+ games, did the daily objectives etc, did some bits on the transfer market, I then logged off (as you only get 10 hours access).
    I logged back onto the webapp and transfer market is STILL blocked. So I cannot trade outside of using my EA Access time, which I want to use solely for 'in game matches' to maximise the coin boosts.
    EA simply don't care about the consumer/user, I played over 2200 games last year, did 90% of SBCs, played fut champs every week and everything, yet 90% of the player base is trading with unlimited time at the moment of Fifa 18, at a KEY TIME to the game, yet I am losing ground on everyone already.
     
    Even EA customer support say there is nothing they can do, their answer is 'play more matches' which is just a fob off in my opinion until the 'time' catches up.
     
    I definitely remember this same issue last year, different people getting different access to the game early on, some people had the web app 24 hours before everyone else last year, I specifically remember losing out on the first daily reward as the webapp wouldn't work for me on launch day last year.
    I think the transfer market unlocked after 24-48 hours, it was definitely before EA Access opened (as web app came out before early access last year).
     
    I know people say it is 'only a game' - but this really is a key time to having a successful club early on. The earlier you get a good team and get into FUT Champs, the better the rewards are for you from the off.
    Apologies, I don't know how to fix your issue, my advice would be 'just wait' and see if it is fixed in 48 hours time, I suspect it will be.
    This isn't what you want to hear, I know it is frustrating, but it is completely beyond our control, there is nothing we can do about it Sad
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    posted a message on FIFA 18 web app + loyalty packs

    I was given 2 gold packs and 4 premium gold packs as loyalty rewards.

    I had a bronze pack daily gift.

     

    One of the reward packs gave me a +1000 coins non rare card.

     

    Other than that I packed:

     

    Joe Hart (82)

    Clyne (82)

    An unknown 81 rare goldkeeper and a load of trash.


    Should I be thankful I packed two decent players?

     

    :/ Don't feel thankful, but maybe I am ungrateful, was hoping for 1 84 rated player from all those packs.

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    posted a message on TOTW1 - When does it come out?

    This is the only thing (that comes to mind) that I am not sure about with FUT18.


    Wednesday has 'gone' of course and the webapp/early access is released tomorrow.

     

    Will it feature TOTW1 from launch?

     

    I cannot remember what has happened during previous years, but I think the WebApp usually comes out on a Tuesday, so there is one day of no IF/TOTW players, but then a TOTW is released and included as it hits 'Wednesday' which is TOTW release day.


    On this occasion, the webbapp and early access is coming on Thursday, so surely TOTW1 will be next Wednesday and could feature completely different players?

    Unless TOTW cards are automatically included in the release tomorrow?

     

    I very much assume it is the latter option with them being included 'from launch' - as I can see EA wanting to 'maximise' temptation for people to purchase Fifa points to buy packs with - as you will have Aguero, Dybala and Mertens special cards? Which are pretty amazing base cards and will be great IF cards from 'day one' - there aren't that many better players than this lot are there?

     

    Anyone have any other ideas on this?

     

     I assume TOTW won't come out for FUT17, if it did come out today at 6pm usual time, I assume that Aguero couldn't get in, as he was in TOTW last week/the current week (at this time).

    If it does come out for FUT17, I assume it definitely won't come out in FUT18 until next Wednesday?

    Still a TOTW in FUT17 is completely and utterly pointless really isn't it? No Marquee Match Ups in FUT17 I assume? So unless people actually 'buy packs' the cards will be rare and won't really be used anyway.

     

    A bit like ST Messi 97 card, still not seen a single one on the market since TOTW came out, I assume that he simply has 'never been packed'?

    Or so rarely people just don't want to sell him.

    EDIT - I see there is an entry on FUTBIN for the messi ST card @ 2.99 million - lol Smile

     

     

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    posted a message on FIFA 18 web app + loyalty packs
    Quote from MJELEB >>

    I played one of the older fifas on 360 and on Xbox one this year I still had my catalogue points from 5 years ago but had to start a new club.

     

    I can still log into the mobile app for 17 when does that stop?

     Not sure when the 'mobile'/companion app ends.
    I know the webapp has stopped, as you cannot use it anymore:
    When you try to use the webapp, it takes you here: https://www.easports.com/uk/fifa/ultimate-team/coming-soon
    I believe the webapp opens for FUT18 then the companion app a day or two later.
     
     
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    posted a message on FIFA 18 web app + loyalty packs
    Quote from fulldouche >>
    Quote from blue_eddie >>

    I believe you get 'loyalty packs' depending on how many games you played last year.


    I think I played over 1200 games in FUT16 and was given 4 loyalty packs for Fifa 17.

    (I assume this is the maximum amount).

     

    As far as I know, 'account age' doesn't impact this, but apparently some people said they managed 5 packs last year, but I assume they were referring to a 'daily gift pack' - as you get a 'daily gift' 'every day on WEBSTART if you open the app each day.

     

    WEBSTART is key to having a good start. When first playing FUT, I wondered how so many people could have 84+ rated premier league teams on 'day1' of the release and it is all down to the web app and using either Fifa points or trading time.

     

    I personally refuse to buy Fifa Points, but I do trade, I managed to get 120k coins by launch last year. I had Courtois and Fabregas from the start.

    However, neither went up in value much at all, so I will be seeking OP bargain players this time, who will go up in price massively (Kante quadrupled in value and potentially more last year).

     

    It took a lot of work to trade all that.

    Also I did have EA Access so basically managed at least 20k of that from 'coin boost' bonuses too.

     

    Good luck Smile

     

    (Just ensure you can access the web app/companion app before it switches off tonight, you have to have a 'security question' set etc, otherwise it won't work)

     

     EDIT - Sorry, forgot to mention, obviously everyone also gets the 'default starter pack' for FUT - e.g. A pack with 4 gold cards, 4 silver and some bronze or something similar, all untradeable, all with around 44 contracts on each card.

    You also get: A manager, a ball, a stadium, a home kit and an away kit.

    This starter pack is completely untradeable, it might even be 'one gold card' - I cannot remember - I am sure very few, or just one single card is a 'rare' from this starter pack, so just hope it's the gold one - lol Smile w/ teeth

     

    Still, the bronze players are absolutely brilliant to churn out 4 offline seasons with from the off, use these and not gold players - the skill level starts on amateur and you can easily win with bronze players if you've played a lot of Fifa before, also you learn the basics of the game better in my opinion, as you are using players who have bad skills, if you can learn with bad skilled played, then usually playing with better players is easier.

    Save those contracts on the gold players like gold dust.

    Build up your mangers to get the full/maximum 'contract bonus' of 50% per player. This will make your club far more sustainable.

    If you have EA access, try and use all coin boosts during it and just play the games.

    Otherwise do that on day 1 of release (or on 3 day early games from ICON edition).

    Go for cheap OP gold players if you can, play lots of offline games and ensure you earn more coins than you spend on contracts.

    Don't use fitness cards or healing cards, just rotate two squads, even if they are both bronze.

     

    Anyway, just some ideas and my opinion of course.

     great read. ty my friend
     Just to follow up on 'value for money' - I have bought the Icon Edition of FUT18 and gone for EA access again.
    I didn't use my payment directly to Xbox, I went to a website and bought game cards (cdkeys.com I find to be reliable, I also buy my Xbox Live Gold Subscription on there).

    Anyway, they do slightly cheaper cards, e.g. £50 voucher for £46.99 - now you may say it is 'only £3 saved' but throw in the £2 off for the £40 to total £90 - which is what the icon edition costs, you are getting it for £5 cheaper for no effort really apart from inputting a couple of codes.
    I am aware that with EA Access you get the icon edition for around £9 - 10 cheaper too.
    So in theory, it is worth paying £4.50 the get a code for one month EA access, then purchasing the Icon edition and saving £9-10? So you get a month of EA access for 'nothing' and you save £5?
    If you also like the Facebook page of the cdkeys site you get a further 5% off, throw a 'cheapest price' I could find (from a reliable seller) for 'Gold Subscription' - along with a £4.50 month EA access and you make a few savings which add up.
    Obviously you can either keep the £5 or put the money towards a couple of packs at the start of the game.
     
    All this came from me not wanting to put in my 'card details' directly to the console, as I don't like the fact it can retain/save them for future billing.
     
    Anyway, it isn't a lot of money off, but I will always save a few quid where I can Smile w/ teeth
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    posted a message on FIFA 18 web app + loyalty packs
    Quote from TioLeo1 >>

    Just one question.

    I've been using the webapp from day one.

    Do I have to do anything in particular for been "detected" for FUT18 (for loyalty reasons I mean) ?

     

    Or am I supposed just to login in September 21?

     

    My case probably is special because I switched platforms for FUT 18, I might not get Loyalty packs, and TBH I'm not sure if I could even have access to the web app before starting the game in the new platform.

     

     You could be right, I am not 100% sure you get anything from switching consoles. Not sure you'll get web app access early.
    Are you now on PS4?
    Is it only Xbox that gets early access? If you have moved 'to' xbox and want to go from the start, you can just buy 1 month of early access for £4.50 odd and use the 10 hours, in which case you can open the game, which unlocks the web app.
     
    I don't know why they'd restrict your starter packs when moving from one console to another though. Are you on a brand new account, or does your Origin account share between both platforms?
    It may come down to needing the same club, in which case I think even under the same origin account, it is still technically 'a new club' isn't it? As none of the information carries across.
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    posted a message on FIFA 18 web app + loyalty packs

    I believe you get 'loyalty packs' depending on how many games you played last year.


    I think I played over 1200 games in FUT16 and was given 4 loyalty packs for Fifa 17.

    (I assume this is the maximum amount).

     

    As far as I know, 'account age' doesn't impact this, but apparently some people said they managed 5 packs last year, but I assume they were referring to a 'daily gift pack' - as you get a 'daily gift' 'every day on WEBSTART if you open the app each day.

     

    WEBSTART is key to having a good start. When first playing FUT, I wondered how so many people could have 84+ rated premier league teams on 'day1' of the release and it is all down to the web app and using either Fifa points or trading time.

     

    I personally refuse to buy Fifa Points, but I do trade, I managed to get 120k coins by launch last year. I had Courtois and Fabregas from the start.

    However, neither went up in value much at all, so I will be seeking OP bargain players this time, who will go up in price massively (Kante quadrupled in value and potentially more last year).

     

    It took a lot of work to trade all that.

    Also I did have EA Access so basically managed at least 20k of that from 'coin boost' bonuses too.

     

    Good luck Smile

     

    (Just ensure you can access the web app/companion app before it switches off tonight, you have to have a 'security question' set etc, otherwise it won't work)

     

     EDIT - Sorry, forgot to mention, obviously everyone also gets the 'default starter pack' for FUT - e.g. A pack with 4 gold cards, 4 silver and some bronze or something similar, all untradeable, all with around 44 contracts on each card.

    You also get: A manager, a ball, a stadium, a home kit and an away kit.

    This starter pack is completely untradeable, it might even be 'one gold card' - I cannot remember - I am sure very few, or just one single card is a 'rare' from this starter pack, so just hope it's the gold one - lol Smile w/ teeth

     

    Still, the bronze players are absolutely brilliant to churn out 4 offline seasons with from the off, use these and not gold players - the skill level starts on amateur and you can easily win with bronze players if you've played a lot of Fifa before, also you learn the basics of the game better in my opinion, as you are using players who have bad skills, if you can learn with bad skilled played, then usually playing with better players is easier.

    Save those contracts on the gold players like gold dust.

    Build up your mangers to get the full/maximum 'contract bonus' of 50% per player. This will make your club far more sustainable.

    If you have EA access, try and use all coin boosts during it and just play the games.

    Otherwise do that on day 1 of release (or on 3 day early games from ICON edition).

    Go for cheap OP gold players if you can, play lots of offline games and ensure you earn more coins than you spend on contracts.

    Don't use fitness cards or healing cards, just rotate two squads, even if they are both bronze.

     

    Anyway, just some ideas and my opinion of course.

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    posted a message on Fifa18 Demo.
    Quote from MJELEB >>
    Quote from futhead_jjmorro >>

    I will agree with the referees being a concern. had a couple dodgy calls already, one where my defender was first to the ball, mis-hit it but still made connection and was covering with his body anyway. opposition attacker attempts to shoot, kicks my defender in the ankle, and is awarded a penalty. only the demo i know, but very concerning.

     

     

     I had a couple more games last night.
    In one incident I did a sliding tackle and my player just fell to the floor with his legs out and then ended up face down a yard in front of their striker.  The ball rolled into my defenders head and their ST blasted it as hard as he could against his head as in the ball was trapped between his foot and my player's head and then he fell over.  The ref gave a penalty.  Their ST only had contact with the ball and my CB only had contact with the ball.  If anything it should have been dangerous play as in real life my CB would have had his neck broken or his spinal column severed.
    I think this stuff happens against the CPU though.  Last  year I remember clearing a cross with a diving header in loads of space and two seconds later their ST fell over my player as he was on the floor from the diving header and the ref gave a pen.
    Speaking of pens, I hate the new system.  For those that haven't seen it yet you have to power up your shot as the first thing to start the penalty.  The targeting arrow is back, which I hated having on last year, once you have let go of the shoot button your player begins his run.  You can press sprint or you can stutter but your shot is already decided so you can't see if they dive early and alter at the last second.  I used to press my shot at the very last second last year with 1 bar of power so as not to give anything away.  I don't like powering up and targeting whilst my player is stood still.
    It seems so easy to over power a shot on the demo.
     I am sure that the ' guiding arrow' when taking penalties is not in FUT Champs, but is in other game modes.
    They removed it in FUT Champs halfway through, I believe it is 'optional' in seasons? In all honesty, outside of training drills, semi pro or lower AI difficulty etc,  I think they should abandon it altogether.
     
    futhead_jjmorro - Yes, indeed it was Fifa 14 that had well OP headers, I remember running a cheap Bundesliga team, 4-4-2, with a 'dual Mario attack':
    Mario Mandžukić
    Mario Gomez
     
    It was actually ridiculous, cross, header, goal.
    Cross, header, goal.
    Repeat endlessly Smile
    I don't think I could put up with that again if I am honest, I rarely use crossing now - only if I am unable to score through other means.
    I have a feeling though, 'the right players' will be good at crossing/heading these days - e.g. Ibrahimovic, Lukaku, the usual suspects. Especially if you have someone like Leighton Baines crossing into them.
     
    The point about Rashford and 4 star skill moves is very valid, that will increase his price.
    Martial I don't think will be as good as last year, but then again, he never was going to be a close 2nd best to Ronaldo in another version.
    Son's stats look decent again this year. 86 pace, 83 dribbling and 82 shots, along with 75 passing will be very popular for cheap squads, for an 82 rated card... I think he will be more popular than Martial, he has retained the 5 star WF and 4 star Skill Moves.
    All you can do is hold your breath and hope you pack someone decent at the beginning, or buy Fifa points, but who wants to spend money on the game! I'd be happy with two 84 rated players out of my starter packs, unlikely I know, but you never know, just a couple of players to build a team around, I've listed a few players I will be looking to pick up for a cheap starter squad early on though, just want a star or two to build the team around, need to get that first WL qualification in the bag.
     
    I did notice refereeing was a bit dodgy, but nothing awful in the games I've played like I have heard on here. Last year, single player was very dodgy for refereeing, it went both ways though, sometimes I'd get the most stupid penalty when I was struggling to break the opposition down at 0-0. It was almost a relief, especially late on in games.
     
     
    The guys
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    posted a message on August monthly rewards
    Quote from sludgepipe >>
    Quote from blue_eddie >>
    Quote from sludgepipe >>
    DQuote from MJELEB >>

    I'm nearly always free from 10-11pm for a couple of hours.

     

    Virtually all our games were slow and some had a little delay at least some of the time.  I notice it more when I've done some sort of 3-4 button combo.

     

    I need to learn how to deal with games when it's a little sluggish.  When connection is fine I do a lot of dead stops, fake shots and ball rolls to try to get my opponent to make a mistake or to gain a bit of space.  These don't work when there's a little bit of delay.  Plus a lot of WL players use pressure and aggression and if you have a little delay they are already challenging you before you have time to do much.

     

    I did notice when I got into Div1 and was winning most of my games that I wasn't doing as many skill moves.  I was only really doing the aforementioned three and barely doing berbas or scoops, a few body feints here and there but mostly I was just reading the game and playing nice football.

     

    The demo comes out today doesn't it?  Don't know if I'll play anymore 17, I'm a little sad to leave my teams I've made.

     

    I'm just hoping what I've learnt will be useful in 18.

     Interesting points, this conversation has made me think about my play style etc. Thinking about it i play to win. I have to win or i'm not happy so like Eddie i probably exploit all the game mechanics. I have won div 1 countless times and i am a very competent seasons player. I don't do may skill moves, it's just instant first time passing and pace, pace, pace. When the game is quick and responsive i feel i can hold my own against 99% of players. In the weekend league though the gameplay is completely different and so slow and delayed. Made me go crazy when i was losing to average players that i know i would hit for 5 or 6 in seasons but couldn't do anything about it because of the delay and how slow my players are etc.
    So it depends what you want out of the game, if you want to win then i would say try to cut out the skill moves and the things that will slow your attacks down (unless you are unbelievably good at them) and concentrate on building fast and incisive attacks. If you just want to have fun and do some skill moves and try tricks, then do that if you don't mind losing...
    I often play really good players, that are brilliant at keeping possession and do loads of skills moves, flashy stuff and tika taka, but then i beat them 3 or 4 nil. I often think to myself well they were good but whats the point if you lose like that? I guess some people don't mind losing and just want to have fun. Unfortunately my competitive nature will not allow me to be like that so i have to win lol
     I think this is another aspect/detail that sets your 'world class players' apart from your average players.
    90% of the time, a skill move will not be effective, but there are periods when the absolute best players user them, as we know, after playing one third of the game against someone, you can learn what they are capable of, I know I've defended well against a very good player, but after 30 in game minutes, they mix it up and catch me out. The best (and most intelligent?) players will learn your style very quickly, even down to how you 'player switch' in game.
    E.G. They will get near the box, know how I defend and will pull of a berba spin, scoop turn, or something when I am controlling the player they are trying to beat. There really is an art to being successfully at that 'level' of the game.
    One thing I am curious about...
    When I have watched the professional events on TV (I don't watch many games, but the final and maybe a couple of other games I do watch as I am curious how some of these professionals play) - E.G. Berlin.
    I am sure most of them seemed to use 'no touch dribbling non stop' - or that is at least what it looks like.
    (Is this right, or am I just 'viewing it incorrectly or not undersanding what they are doing?)
    They safeguard/retain possession as if their life depends on it.
    They absolutely use players to their EXACT attribute effectiveness.
    I am very interested if FUT18 is much of the same or not at the 'top level'.
    There will of course be the 'FUT Champs channel' as such, with full recordings of the best players, this is good as it helps everyone see how to play the game 'professionally' - I wonder how many people can be successful off the back of this being public, e.g. how many players can 'copy them' with almost parrot fasion and end up getting top 100 etc.
    I think in my last weekend, as I'd had a two week break, hit an early win streak and went 11-0 at the start, I was far more composed and held possession far better than I had before. It was almost like my playstyle changed to 'defend' my record. Which is interesting... usually I go into the games trying to score a goal and get the upper hand early  on, but keeping possession and being patient definitely pays off, you can wait until your opponent makes a mistake, then punish them. This is definitely what the professionals do, it takes one lapse in concentration, one bit of space, not covering an opponents attacking player and the opponent is in!
     However, at the end of the day, unless you can finish top 100 and have a chance of actually playing at 'professional level' - apart from improving your team faster... what do you actually gain from playing the game in a controlled manner?
    I am very competitive too Sludge, I would be very interested in us playing FUT17, I wonder how good each of us is, I would expect you to beat me in all honesty, but I think they'd be very close games I think.
    The problem is, I've already started playing the Fifa 18 demo! Smile
     
    On a custom tactics point, I have never really changed these settings.
    I have a formation, select all CMs to 'stay back while attacking' - same with the fullbacks.
    I set all the attackers possible to 'get in behind' and press opponents defence.
    Other than that, it is all at default, I wonder how much difference 'high pressure' could have made.
    If you have 'the best players' - are they wasted if you don't play 'high pressure' (e.g. having most players on 99 stamina, surely means you can play high pressure without the players being tired for 120minutes? Not having tried it, I will never know, but it has always played on my mind a bit).
    E.G. Are all the special mega expensive cards with 99 stamina wasted if you don't play high pressing custom tactics?
     
     
     I would be happy to have you a few games Eddie, i am only competitive when playing against strangers, if i'm playing against a friend or someone that i know is not a bell end, then i am happy if i lose. it is only the low life dabbing and shhhhhing community i cannot bare to lose against lol. You never know how these games will play out though do you. There is lots of IFs and buts. Just because i win the div 1 title more often than not does not mean you won't be beat me, different styles, connections etc. Hell i am very average in fut champs, i would say poor actually lol.
    Custom tactics though, pretty much a waste of time for me. The gameplay is so inconsistent i find, so what might 'work' in one game won't in the next because you will be playing a different game. As for player instructions they generally don't work either, the game just does what it wants. I have to laugh when NIF insigne is bullying my TOTS Tolisso in the middle of the park Smile w/ teeth
     
     If we play, I want you to play 'full on' - pretend I am someone from FUT Champs/Weekend league... lol Smile
    Don't hold back at all!
     
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    posted a message on August monthly rewards
    Quote from sludgepipe >>
    DQuote from MJELEB >>

    I'm nearly always free from 10-11pm for a couple of hours.

     

    Virtually all our games were slow and some had a little delay at least some of the time.  I notice it more when I've done some sort of 3-4 button combo.

     

    I need to learn how to deal with games when it's a little sluggish.  When connection is fine I do a lot of dead stops, fake shots and ball rolls to try to get my opponent to make a mistake or to gain a bit of space.  These don't work when there's a little bit of delay.  Plus a lot of WL players use pressure and aggression and if you have a little delay they are already challenging you before you have time to do much.

     

    I did notice when I got into Div1 and was winning most of my games that I wasn't doing as many skill moves.  I was only really doing the aforementioned three and barely doing berbas or scoops, a few body feints here and there but mostly I was just reading the game and playing nice football.

     

    The demo comes out today doesn't it?  Don't know if I'll play anymore 17, I'm a little sad to leave my teams I've made.

     

    I'm just hoping what I've learnt will be useful in 18.

     Interesting points, this conversation has made me think about my play style etc. Thinking about it i play to win. I have to win or i'm not happy so like Eddie i probably exploit all the game mechanics. I have won div 1 countless times and i am a very competent seasons player. I don't do may skill moves, it's just instant first time passing and pace, pace, pace. When the game is quick and responsive i feel i can hold my own against 99% of players. In the weekend league though the gameplay is completely different and so slow and delayed. Made me go crazy when i was losing to average players that i know i would hit for 5 or 6 in seasons but couldn't do anything about it because of the delay and how slow my players are etc.
    So it depends what you want out of the game, if you want to win then i would say try to cut out the skill moves and the things that will slow your attacks down (unless you are unbelievably good at them) and concentrate on building fast and incisive attacks. If you just want to have fun and do some skill moves and try tricks, then do that if you don't mind losing...
    I often play really good players, that are brilliant at keeping possession and do loads of skills moves, flashy stuff and tika taka, but then i beat them 3 or 4 nil. I often think to myself well they were good but whats the point if you lose like that? I guess some people don't mind losing and just want to have fun. Unfortunately my competitive nature will not allow me to be like that so i have to win lol
     I think this is another aspect/detail that sets your 'world class players' apart from your average players.
    90% of the time, a skill move will not be effective, but there are periods when the absolute best players user them, as we know, after playing one third of the game against someone, you can learn what they are capable of, I know I've defended well against a very good player, but after 30 in game minutes, they mix it up and catch me out. The best (and most intelligent?) players will learn your style very quickly, even down to how you 'player switch' in game.
    E.G. They will get near the box, know how I defend and will pull of a berba spin, scoop turn, or something when I am controlling the player they are trying to beat. There really is an art to being successfully at that 'level' of the game.
    One thing I am curious about...
    When I have watched the professional events on TV (I don't watch many games, but the final and maybe a couple of other games I do watch as I am curious how some of these professionals play) - E.G. Berlin.
    I am sure most of them seemed to use 'no touch dribbling non stop' - or that is at least what it looks like.
    (Is this right, or am I just 'viewing it incorrectly or not undersanding what they are doing?)
    They safeguard/retain possession as if their life depends on it.
    They absolutely use players to their EXACT attribute effectiveness.
    I am very interested if FUT18 is much of the same or not at the 'top level'.
    There will of course be the 'FUT Champs channel' as such, with full recordings of the best players, this is good as it helps everyone see how to play the game 'professionally' - I wonder how many people can be successful off the back of this being public, e.g. how many players can 'copy them' with almost parrot fasion and end up getting top 100 etc.
    I think in my last weekend, as I'd had a two week break, hit an early win streak and went 11-0 at the start, I was far more composed and held possession far better than I had before. It was almost like my playstyle changed to 'defend' my record. Which is interesting... usually I go into the games trying to score a goal and get the upper hand early  on, but keeping possession and being patient definitely pays off, you can wait until your opponent makes a mistake, then punish them. This is definitely what the professionals do, it takes one lapse in concentration, one bit of space, not covering an opponents attacking player and the opponent is in!
     However, at the end of the day, unless you can finish top 100 and have a chance of actually playing at 'professional level' - apart from improving your team faster... what do you actually gain from playing the game in a controlled manner?
    I am very competitive too Sludge, I would be very interested in us playing FUT17, I wonder how good each of us is, I would expect you to beat me in all honesty, but I think they'd be very close games I think.
    The problem is, I've already started playing the Fifa 18 demo! Smile
     
    On a custom tactics point, I have never really changed these settings.
    I have a formation, select all CMs to 'stay back while attacking' - same with the fullbacks.
    I set all the attackers possible to 'get in behind' and press opponents defence.
    Other than that, it is all at default, I wonder how much difference 'high pressure' could have made.
    If you have 'the best players' - are they wasted if you don't play 'high pressure' (e.g. having most players on 99 stamina, surely means you can play high pressure without the players being tired for 120minutes? Not having tried it, I will never know, but it has always played on my mind a bit).
    E.G. Are all the special mega expensive cards with 99 stamina wasted if you don't play high pressing custom tactics?
     
     
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    posted a message on Fifa18 Demo.
    Quote from MJELEB >>

    It doesn't bode well considering it took about 20 attempts to get it to start to download 'there's a problem at our end' and then it took 3 hours to download Smile

     I had the same problem as you with the 'attempts to download' - it took around 8 attempts.
     
    However, once it was downloading, 10 minutes after it started, it hit 'near max speed' of 150MB/s - which is incredible, not had much download at that rate on any platform if I am honest, that fully utilises the Gb 'network interface card' in the Xbox One.
    Maybe I was just 'lucky' but it downloaded in something like 15-20 minutes total (it took 10 minutes to 'get going' and started at 20MB/s), which I was pretty happy with, it popped up as completed whilst I was doing something else and I was surprised it was finished already.
     
    I do understand this though, the amount of people waiting for this demo could in theory be 'more than the actual release' on day one.
    The demo is free, so everyone wants to try it, it was always going to be a 'busy period'.
     
    As I said, my worry is how different the main Fifa 'kick off mode' is compared to 'Ultimate Team' - usually Ultimate Team feels more 'arcade game based' for me personally.
    Faster and less strategic.
     
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    posted a message on Fifa18 Demo.

    Anyone played it much?

     

    I played three games of it or so.

    All against the AI of course as that is the only option.

    Positive so far IMO - However, I know FUT usually plays differently to the actual 'normal mode' of the game, so you never know what FUT will be like.

     

    • It seems good, smoother than Fifa 17, a bit slower.
    • Less random rubbish has gone on.
    • Player selection is much improved (I haven't had a problem of selecting the desired player 'first time' yet).
    • Pace seems more accurate, e.g. some slow defender cannot keep up/catch up to Ronaldo, or even Giovinco (who is quick).
    • Shielding is still OP it seems.
    • Running down the wing, followed by a pull back seems to still be quite effective.
    • As expected, 'auto defending' seems to have been nerfed.
    • Driven shots are still well too OP for my liking.

    Still, let's not mess about, this is the second instalment of the game based on the 'Frostbite' engine, so we were expect 'more of the same' but improved right?

    The game definitely feels 'less arcade like' - running with Ronaldo feels nothing like the old version, or running with Dembele in FUT17 (in my opinion).

    I've heard the frame-rate his higher than before, which is likely to account for the fact the game is smoother, however the real answer will come when playing an 'online game' of course and the huge question is, will gameplay be 'consistent' - I doubt it lol Smile w/ teeth

     

    If the connection issues are fixed, we could be halfway there though.

     

    Anyone else have any opinion on the demo so far?

     

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    posted a message on This game really knows how to mess with my mind....
    Quote from eCasual >>

    Messi 1.2

    Pogba 400k

    De Gea 100

    Suatez I dont remember. 

     

    Manage to buy a Serie A Tots team with Mertens which was fun as long as the server response was ok. 

     

    Hope the server issues get solved in 18. have little hope that scripting will be gone. 

     

    Good luck all

     You certainly pulled Messi at the right time for that amount of coins! Very nice.
    At least you built a team you were happy with and had fun with, that is all you could ask for.
    As always, it is a shame about the servers.
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    posted a message on This game really knows how to mess with my mind....
    Quote from eCasual >>

    Pack luck has been amazing for me in 17. Hope it continues. Best 5 cards:

     

    Messi

    Suarez

    Pogba

    Neuer

    De Gea

     

     

     Pretty decent pulls. I should consider myself lucky maybe (despite never pulling a Messi, Suarez or Neuer).
    How much were your cards worth when you packed them, roughly?
    I pulled Pogba when he was worth 600k and De Gea when he was worth 120k, both around half way into the 'FUT Cycle' of the year.
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